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Attend Official Coliseumscam Public Dis-information Meetings

July 9, 2011

http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/CountyExecutive/NewsRelease/2010/6-23-2011a.htm

Nassau County will host a series of public information meetings to be held from 12:00 p.m. to 2:00 p.m. and from 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. (unless specified otherwise) on the following days:

  • Monday, July 11th at the Jones Manor on the Sound Adult Home, located at Bayville Avenue, Bayville (Town of Oyster Bay).
  • Tuesday, July 12th at the Long Beach Public Library at 111 West Park Avenue Long Beach, NY 11561 from 11 am – 1 pm & The Magnolia Senior Center at 650 Magnolia Blvd Long Beach, NY 11561 from 4 pm – 8 pm.
  • Tuesday, July 12th at East Meadow High School, located at 101 Carmen Avenue, East Meadow (Town of Hempstead). From 7 p.m. – 9 p.m. only.
  • Wednesday, July 13th at Glen Cove City Hall (in the main chambers), located at 9 Glen Street, Glen Cove (City of Glen Cove).
  • Friday, July 15th at the Theodore Roosevelt Executive & Legislative Building (in the rotunda), located at 1550 Franklin Ave, Mineola (Town of Hempstead).

Be respectful of those who support Coliseumscam, including county government officials.  Many of them don’t know what is really at stake.

Download flyers from this site. Study what is said here and by other opponents such as Conservative Party leader and NIFA board member George Marlin.

Our position isn’t that we want nothing built or that we necessarily oppose a new Coliseum or minor-league ballpark. We believe it should be done by private enterprise with private dollars at private risk, not by county government with taxpayer dollars at the taxpayer’s risk.  We Libertarians say this is legalized theft which makes the project Coliseum$cam (Coliseumscam).

If you are subjected to threats or actual physical force by supporters, call the police and contact me at nylibertarian@Hotmail.com.  Get your facts straight–who, what, when and where.

It is only natural that a scheme based on the use of legalized force should edge over to the illegal kind.

Whether or not you are subjected to intimidation, I would like to hear about your experiences. I can’t make the events on the 12th or 14th as I have speeches to give on Coliseumscam.

Richard Cooper,  as Coordinator of the Stop Nassau COliseum Funding  Project

Vice Chair Libertarian Party of New York www.ny.lp.org  National website www.lp.org

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6 Comments
  1. All due respect, if you want to be against the Coliseum referendum, that is your choice, but to simply claim you want it done privately after Kate Murray ran off the Wang-Rechler privately financed Lighthouse and the 20m invested is not telling the entire story. Wang and Rechler tried that way and your group did not put the pressure on Murray-Mondello, who forced this to be a public issue.

    Howard Milstein also offered to do this privately and was run out by Tom Gulotta a decade earlier.

  2. NOYB permalink

    The County will lose MILLIONS of dollars in tax revenues if the Coliseum loses its main tenant and closes down. You will lose concerts, circus, Disney on ice among may others shows at the arena. You will loss 2000+ jobs and not to mention additional tax revenues that local business around the Coliseum take it during games, concerts, and other shows. This is not just about an aging building. IT is about keeping LI’s only pro sports franchise and supporting the local economy which will collapse if the building shutters.

  3. Emanuel permalink

    First time user, who thinks the Isles should move cause the TOH doesn’t deserve the privilege.
    But very open minded.

    So…why is this legalized theft?
    Do you have any proof that someone has made threats or used physical force?
    And if an incident has occurred, why should someone contact you?
    What are they doing that’s illegal?
    Why do you refer to encountering a Yes voter as “experiences”?

    Just want to hear both sides.

  4. Dan Wallace permalink

    Why should Wang spend his own money on a Coliseum that the county owns? He offered to build his own arena (the Lighthouse Project), but the county and the Town of Hempstead denied him the permits and rezoning measures needed to make the project profitable.

    If the voters fail to pass the Coliseum bond, it will drastically increase the chances that nothing will get done with the Coliseum site. Who else besides Wang has expressed interest in developing it? If and when the Islanders leave, the Coliseum will have lost its only anchor tenant, and it is just about impossible to profitably run an arena without an anchor tenant; this will decrease the likelihood of another development partner coming along.

    Further, if and when the Islanders leave, they will have to build a new arena wherever they go. This will most likely be Queens. Having an arena right next door competing for concert bookings and the like will even futher decrease the Coliseum’s viability. This all goes to show that if the Coliseum bond fails to pass, Nassau County will be allowing one of its valuable assets to diminish in value, probably down to nothing.

    And what will having a big vacant lot in the middle of Nassau county do for property values? It will be a lot worse than $60 a year for three years, I am sure of that! An abandonned arena in the middle of a densly populated area is an invitation for urban blight. And what about the millions of dollars that go to hockey games, concerts, circuses, concession stands, sportsbars, and restaurants in or around the arena? They would all flow out to Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan, or elsewhere instead of staying in Nassau county. Once again, the impact will be a lot worse than $60 a year for three years. Also, there are the jobs of the people that work in and around the Coliseum. If the Coliseum is allowed to go down the tubes, their payroll taxes as well their contribution to sales taxes through their spending in the county will all be gone.

    I realize that opponents of the Coliseum bond claim that they are not arguing in favor of doing nothing with the Coliseum site, but as I have argued here, there will little to nothing to do with it unless the bond passes.

    Why should Wang spend his own money on a Coliseum that the county owns? He offered to build his own arena (the Lighthouse Project), but the county and the Town of Hempstead denied him the permits and rezoning measures needed to make the project profitable.

    If the voters fail to pass the Coliseum bond, it will drastically increase the chances that nothing will get done with the Coliseum site. Who else besides Wang has expressed interest in developing it? If and when the Islanders leave, the Coliseum will have lost its only anchor tenant, and it is just about impossible to profitably run an arena without an anchor tenant; this will decrease the likelihood of another development partner coming along.

    Further, if and when the Islanders leave, they will have to build a new arena wherever they go. This will most likely be Queens. Having an arena right next door competing for concert bookings and the like will even further decrease the Coliseum’s viability. This all goes to show that if the Coliseum bond fails to pass, Nassau County will be allowing one of its valuable assets to diminish in value, probably down to nothing.

    And what will having a big vacant lot in the middle of Nassau county do for property values? It will be a lot worse than $60 a year for three years, I am sure of that! An abandoned arena in the middle of a densely populated area is an invitation for urban blight. And what about the millions of dollars that go to hockey games, concerts, circuses, concession stands, sports-bars, and restaurants in or around the arena? They would all flow out to Queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan, or elsewhere instead of staying in Nassau County. Once again, the impact will be a lot worse than $60 a year for three years. Also, there are the jobs of the people that work in and around the Coliseum. If the Coliseum is allowed to go down the tubes, their payroll taxes as well their contribution to sales taxes through their spending in the county will all be gone.

    I realize that opponents of the Coliseum bond claim that they are not arguing in favor of doing nothing with the Coliseum site, but as I have argued here, there will little to nothing to do with it unless the bond passes.

    I also realize that the Coliseum bond is not a sure thing; it is an investment, and investments are never guaranteed. But I am sure that a YES vote on the Coliseum bond gives Nassau County the best chance for success.

  5. Mr. Brodsky, I am going to echo the other commenters. At a certain point, if you want to be a reasonable voice in the debate, and you don’t want to be perceived as simply anti-everything, which I think is the case, you need to propose a workable solution. It is quite clear to everyone involved in this that in the absence of a large development like the Lighthouse–killed by politicians–that nobody is going to step up and build an arena on their own dime. Continuing to advocate it as a solution is simply empty posturing; it isn’t going to happen. So please, excuse yourself as a serious commenter on this project until you come up with something that actually fixes the problem instead of just spewing dogma. If you want to say, “I want the government out of that site, and it should just be sold to the highest bidder to be developed as the developer sees fit, in line with the zoning of the area,” then I will tip my hat to you for coming up with a realistic answer. I won’t agree, but you should get a lot of credit. But sitting there and babbling over and over “private developer…rebuild arena…no government involvement” could be done by a parrot, not by a person who is trying to put himself up as an intelligent voice in the debate. Come up with something reasonable.

  6. Sorry, I had your name wrong…please correct.

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